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Hopping Mad
Posted by DonS on 2011-02-14 11:12:18
A wort extract without sugar is simply a wort with no added sucrose (or, heaven forbid, fructose) other than that resulting from making the malt, wort, and succeeding wort extract. After all, extract is nothing more than wort in concentrated (if liquid) or dehydrated (if dried) form. Making beer from extract is a little like making gelatine dessert from the powder in the packets: just add water, cook a bit, and presto! Well, okay, maybe you don't ferment the gelatine dessert, but still... Adding DME to very hot water usually results in a vigorous boil-over, and it can be nasty, because the solution is very sticky and gets into *everything*. If it gets on you, it doesn't just drip off, so it can be a smidge hazardous, like any very hot sticky substance can be when it adheres to your skin or clothing. Normally, you add DME (or liquid extract) slowly to water as you gradually heat it up, so it dissolves evenly without getting too active. Once the solution reaches a steady boil, it's usually no longer a problem. Then you can also start your hop addition(s). And of course, a bit of stirring helps too, so that you don't get problems with hot spots in your boiling vessel that can lead to scorching the wort. By temperature control for lagering, I mean fermenting and conditioning at controlled cool/cold temperatures, and that's only part of the work. The Zoigl brewers still have to deal with proper mashing and boiling, too, however simple their setup might be, in order to avoid forming compounds that leave to off-flavors (diacetyl, DMS, acetaldehydes, etc), because these off-flavors stick out like a sore thumb in a pale lager. This is why home-brewers start with ales. You can allow things to happen in ale fermentation (phenols, esters) that are anathema to lager brewing (well, okay, you can have a certain phenol in Rauchbier, but that's deliberate!).
 
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                 Hopping Mad by Nick B. on  2011-02-14 23:32:29
                   Hopping Mad by Nick B. on  2011-02-14 23:43:39
                   Hopping Mad by Barry on  2011-02-15 02:17:20
                     Hopping Mad by Nick B. on  2011-02-15 02:52:00
                       Hopping Mad by Barry on  2011-02-15 04:15:07
                         Hopping Mad by Nick B. on  2011-02-15 06:04:53
                         Hopping Mad by Mark Andersen on  2011-02-15 06:41:16
                           Hopping Mad by Barry on  2011-02-15 08:16:13
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                             Wide-mouth Demijohn in the US by Mark Andersen on  2011-02-16 04:59:49
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                           Wide-mouth Demijohn in the US by Nick B. on  2011-02-16 04:55:50
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                                       Wide-mouth Demijohn in the US by TreinJan on  2011-02-17 05:52:09
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                                       Wide-mouth Demijohn in the US by DonS on  2011-02-17 10:56:09
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                                           Wide-mouth Demijohn in the US by DonS on  2011-02-17 13:47:28
                                               Wide-mouth Demijohn in the US by Nick B. on  2011-02-17 22:49:32
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